Re DX11: Of course looking forward to adjusted version, but not an urgent necessity. In the meantime I switched back to DX9 for now. It's a very quick change. All is well. Thank you for your time.
Markus, Does that mean you have an English speaker there for the first 2 hours? (Daniel or you speaking english)
IMPORTANT: I have not tried the "Race" server before, only the "dry" one. Tonight I try to connect the the race server, discover it needs many extra downloads AND after all that, does not include our Horizon GT Ferrari in the cars to choose from. The entry list does have our GT3 entry (#64) - although still incorrectly listed as using the Corvette. Help?
Hey, unser LMP ist auch noch nicht vorhanden , weder das Auto selbst, noch der Skin. Teamname: Rennsimulanten I #1 Lola B12-60 Skin: Bitte den von Interlagos nehmen. Gruß Mario
Admin Post Hm also deadline war der 4.6. Alles was danach gekommen ist, ist nicht mit drin da simon erst heute wieder da ist. Ich schau aber jetzt nochmal drüber. David daniel and i talking in Germany the first 2 houers of the race.next 2 houers you and ricardo in englisch.
@Markus Broch Markus in my opinion if its German language only for 2 hours then any English speaking audience is lost both for live views and later views. So then english speaking commentary is sort of "buried" in the middle of 8 hours of a German language league stream. It is of course up to you if you want an intenational audience and of course I respect that as boss it's your decision to make.
David, i will switch to english every now and then and try to internationalize the stream as much as possible i.e. calling yellow flags in english as that should be understood by both listeners, also giving updates on the main situation, but sticking to german for play by play commentary
Dürfte man um einen Link zum Stream bitten, ab besten Youtube falls vorhanden?! Der Link oben in der blauen Leiste gibt nichts her... Ansonsten wünsche ich allen viel Spaß und Erfolg!!! Enjoy it and have a good race!!!
OK Daniel, understood, good luck. The offer remains to be available to co-commentate in the first 2 hours.
Just wanted to say a big thanks to the organizers and apologies on behalf of the Panther Racing Team. Unfortunately none of my team mates turn up for the race, so I was agitate and it was badly effecting my driving, plus there was no way I could do 8 hours on my own. I hope those that did make it had a great race.
Don't agree that there's anything wrong with the choice of track. Nor the choice of words used against Studenski, but... Studenski hit me, making a pass into Spoon that he shouldn't. I turned in not expecting him, nor having seen him, we slightly touched and he went off. An accident. He misjudged, I didn't see him coming. Unlucky for both. HOWEVER, when he caught me later, in the braking zone for the final chicane, I feel he quite deliberately used me as his braking assist, hitting me hard from behind for no reason other than anger at something he thought I did deliberately. For a few laps I SERIOUSLY considered hitting him next time he came past, but I am not like that and managed to talk myself out of it. But the fact that I even thought about it is a massive flag to me. A few laps later, another LMP driver, Danny van der Niet, hit me hard from behind IN AN ACCELERATION ZONE. Coming out of Spoon he just made no effort to overtake and drove right into me. Again, I was extremely angry. Writing now, and being such a nice person, I am prepared to perhaps believe that one of us had lag for a moment. All this after I was VERY happy at the end of my first stint despite being wiped out by an LMP the very first time they lapped the field. I enjoyed my drive. But the poor organisation of this race (practice server using GP layout and race using International layout; not all cars/skins being available; extra downloads suddenly needed to connect to race server compared with practice server), and a small number of drivers have put me off. Which is a real shame because the drivers here are fast. Good racing in many places. Most of the LMP drivers today were very respectful and patient. I had great battles with a number of GT drivers. Clean, safe racing for the most part. But too much chaos around it all. I don't think I'll be back. Sorry.
"Collision derby" is for me the 2 words, best to describe this race. Luckily for all of us, even at 80% damage multiplier, cars were like tanks. @Arnold Hausmann Insulting people here ... wow ... learn some manners - reported! Timestamps please so I can watch for myself and apologize if it was my mistake. I remember having 2 or 3 collisions which were clearly accidents, which can happen. I would be surprised if anybody had a 100% clean race. This can happen, especially with inexperienced drivers or drivers that don't drive a la Gentlemen's Agreement. You never look in your mirror = most stupid mistake in multiclass racing you can do ... your fault then, thats exactly what real life stewards would judge. And I even had my lights on, all race long! Iirc in the final chicane either you were the guy changing line under braking when I was pretty much along side or I accidentally hit you which can happen, as stated above, I doubt anybody had a 100% clean race ... this is 8h with inexperienced drivers. @James Andrew If it was my fault I will apologize, but I wanna first review my replay ... I can guarantee you though I NEVER would intentionally ram someone ... I got frustrated yes and played with the thought during the race though aswell (on 2 other drivers because they intentionally rammed me). 99% of the mistakes were by GT3 itself. It IS CLEARLY WRITTEN in the RULES that you shouldnt go off the racing line - most collisions were a result of not following that. Worst of the GT3 was a guy that I had 3x a collision with. 2x intentionally trying to ram me off. There were also driver in Qualifying that missed a chicane and instead of giving room they just blocked the racing line ... no surprise I have also a few complaints about LMPs driving zickzack and just turning in and ramming people off. No offense but organization was something of the worst I have ever seen. 4 people drove laps in Warmup - nothing happend (it is forbidden btw). We had at least 2 situations where Safety Car could have been deployed, never happend. No driver briefing - no livestewarding (which is a must in such an event - it doesn't make sense to do this without, especially because everyone can sign up). I had 2 bugs - first I couldnt driver swap in the first try, despite doing everything correctly, second when I finally driverswapped probably my Rev Limiter was wrong, suddenly go into the limiter at 10400 instead of 10800. @P1-Gaming: With better rules and people following this rules, this could be an awesome league. I think you don't get around something like SimRacing.Club. You need more detailed rules, remind people before the race and penalize / kick them during the race if they don't follow them, easy as that. Whats the point of such a great idea otherwise? What is now is frustration for most because of the many collisions because some dont care about rules. People don't race here anymore, this site gets a bad reputation. That would be a shame, I really think you have a great potential to be a worthy alternative to VEC.
Admin Post One grows with the tasks and the criticism we gladly take the knowledge to make it better.
It was a pleasure to race with the Hagemann racing team. Lars and Bjorn made me welcome and even with their great pace were happy to look at my setup ideas. Lars put the car on pole and had about 1 sec per lap on P2 so with 5 sec on lap 8 he was looking very strong. From there we had a few challenges. An LMP2 contacted our car while leading GT3, and Lars had a lot of damage. It was no longer the same with appr +2 sec lap time penalty due to damage but he pushed on. We were dead last and had 7 hours to work. We needed to disconnect and rejoin after another LMP2 hit. After about 2 hours Bjorn took the car and started going fast again. It was a good stint and gradually we worked our way back to P4. In fact down to 40 sec gap to P3 when I took the car. My stint#1 I took the car and for some reason my wheel profiler did not recognise the mod and I found myself with an OSW 20nm wheel and a formula rim with 100% force. Normally I run 50%, It was like weightlifting, I was slow and very sweaty after only 5 laps. Then I was hit and ended on my roof. Big opportunity to dsc and adjust my wheel. I start again and the wheel is good but its now a default set up. Radiator size 4, rear wing #9. The gearing is much lower, The rest of the set , no idea. The car is understeery and nuking fronts. My pace is a bit embarrassing. I hand back to Lars for a stint after lowering radiator, and rear wing and with 90 mins to go, -less fuel as well. We have gradually worked and inherited places and are P4 in class. Lars invites me to bring it home. With better aero balance, engine cooling for oil temp to 80 deg C instead of 75! I could at least run 2m:01. With attrition we got to the podium which seemed a given at the start but impossible at the 1 hour mark. Most LMP2 cars were reasonably considered with passes but it grates a bit that Lars was taken out while leading the class. GT 3s are racing too,not just scenery. Thanks organisers, thanks broadcasters. See you at my home track-Bathurst. Not only have I driven it,I ran it in October.
Hi Jan. I suspect that you and I are, like many drivers, feeling pretty down and annoyed about today's event. I hope that won't cause us to say unfair or nasty things. First of all, if you say that you hit me at the chicane by accident, I will accept that. It was a mighty hard hit deep in the braking zone but we do all make mistakes. I chose my words carefully and said that I felt that it had been deliberate. That was certainly partly because it came at the first time you met me again on the track. But of course, you may have been as angry and flustered as I was and so missed the corner badly, hence the crash. My description of the initial incident at Spoon which caused you to spin out did not blame or attack you. In fact I said that it was a mistake of both of us. I had not seen you approach and you tried to overtake in a place where nobody else had tried to or even did for the rest of the race. However, please don't accuse me of not looking in my mirrors or being stupid or inexperienced. Suzuka is all bends and not much straight. Mirrors only help a little. Less so when cars as fast as LMPs are coming through. Our initial contact was merely a racing incident. I was devastated that you were unable to catch the wiggle and keep going. I have many years of endurance racing under my belt, and a lot of that has been driving an LMP in multi-class racing. I know both sides of the traffic equation very well. Signalling intentions and reading the signals of others is everything. So I hope we are both OK with each other now! A bad day, where feelings got hurt and tempers were high. But no real damage. In real life at my nearest race track today, three drivers were helicoptered to hospital. Our 8h race is nothing. Take care, have fun.
@Admins, when is the replay going to be available? Since Markus said: I'm going to point out few things that should be taken as an "advice" and not as putting down the P1 League: A- These endurance races being one-off events takes away the importance of filing a protest. I think it is important to consider having a live steward. I have seen at least 7 names on the P1 broadcasting list as hosts. This is really secondary compare to having rules and regulations in place and applying them throughout the race. Having live stewards is a lot more important feature. Even if the steward may not catch all the incidents teams would still have the option to text him via TS and notify him about their incident asking for penalty. Somebody was so desperate during the 3rd hour that he was asking the admin to ban a certain # car to be banned from the race, via chat!? This should not be happening in a serious league event. B- There needs to be additional rules and sets of penalties to address race incidents if there is going to be live steward, so that proper penalties can be applied during the race (drive-thru and stop-and-go etc). C- There were some drivers in both classes that either did not have experience or did not have patience (or both). For this race if you guys had 3 live stewards I guarantee all 3 would have been very busy all race long. I'm not going to trash anybody because they did not have experience (like some others are doing), they need to be racing so they can gain experience but when they make mistakes there needs to be consequence so that they learn from their mistakes in a proper way. Without any ruling and any penalties no one will take the extension of their wrong doing seriously and will repeat it again. This is just basic human nature. It is the League's responsibility to come up with solution to the problem. D- Switching the tracks between practice, qualy and race was not good at all. Most likely that is what screwed up our setup. Somehow we (#63 Horizon P2) lost speed and fuel consumption when race started! We could not match our test lap times, we were .7 to 1.0 second off pace and were consuming .1 Liter per lap less fuel, despite using full boost and maximum fuel trim. I can not think any reason why admins would change tracks without announcing. Track layout should be designated weeks before the event and never changed afterwards. That was not cool. E- This track really brought up the deficiencies of the Rebellion mod to the surface as the layout required a precision driving, and -to me at least- it was not possible to execute and be in maximum attack mode at the same time. The rear end lose traction very easy despite the use of TC at slow speeds. Tire model has flaws, even at lowest tire pressure and low camber setting center of the rubber heats up very quickly. Especially hard compound should be heating up slowly compare to soft one. And should be shedding that heat much quicker once you clear the corner. Heat build up causes overheating of the tire and complete loss of grip, or worst yet, dancing right at the edge of it all race long. All this contributed -I think- the erratic driving by many P2 drivers myself included. Enduracers P2 cars for instance (and despite their wrong weight distribution problems) are a lot better cars than this P2 mod and I wish we were using them instead of this one single model. This was the worst endurance race we've ever experienced due to above mentioned problems, so naturally some of our drivers will either be changing class or will be skipping the next race and wait for the 24H race.
