P1LMS 2023 P1LMS 8h of Bahrain - Talk

Question:

It looks like we have about 36°C air temperature on Saturdays race.

After a long run we have 100°C water and 122°C oil temperature with complete open radiator and open water cooling (Ferrari GTE). From experience the temperatures will increase, if we would drive a double stint (what most of the teams are doing). In that case there's a potential danger for some cars getting an engine failure over the 8 hours. Can we limit the air temperature for this particular race? Rain is a non-factor here so influence is marignal.

 

Depending on the weather service I checked, up to 38°C are predicted for Saturday. The car even hit 101°C water temperature for me after a long run.

Like Patrick, I can only speak for the Ferrari GTE, but I think these conditions could become dangerous for many cars over the course of the race.

 

temperature in real time, same problem for everyone

 

Moin, ich kann nicht joinen - irgendein Problem mit dem workshop

 

Leider kann unser GTE #117 heute nicht starten. Ich wünsche allen ein gutes Rennen!

 

Krankheitsbedingt kann Gran Tuccini Racing #189 heute leider nicht am Rennen teilnehmen. Viel Erfolg und Spaß euch allen!

 

Hallo, hat jemand eine Ahnung oder Idee? Wir fuhren mit 76 % Pedalkraft, beim ersten Stopp stellte RF2 automatisch auf 100 % um. Aber wir hatten beide das gleiche Setup geladen

 

Dann hat muss dein Teamkollege das falsche Setup geladen haben. Pedalkraft kann jeder individuell einstellen. Vor dem Fahrerwechsel muss allerdings das korrekte Setup assigned werden, dass diese Settings übernommen werden. Das rF2 hier selbst andere Einstellungen vornimmt, hatte ich bisher noch keine Erfahrungen gemacht.

 

Hi guys, about post-race decisions and the issue of reset the engine temps, several questions come to mind:
- If this bug was notified to the organization prior to the race, why was it not communicated by admins to all the teams so that we could race under the same conditions?
- If tomorrow we find a new bug, do I understand that from today onwards it´s right to continually exploit it in the race?
- Taking into account the temperature problems we had in Bahrain, does any driver or engineer of other teams think that leaving the pits at 80º would be in the same conditions as leaving the pit with the engine at 120º? Do they handle it the same? Is it the same competitively?


And honestly, IMHO win the race... surely they would have won it by far anyway. Now in sportsmanship, it doesn't seem like a win to me. I think we all lost.

 

They were just smarter, this is NOT cheating.

 

At no point I ask if they are cheating or if they are smarter, there is no doubt about that.

 

btw: I checked the replay out of curiosity: For some reason you guys were reving up to almost 7000 rpm in the first stint (when engine temps were still equal after the start), about 500-700 rpm higher than we did, depending on the part of the track. So I guess temperature probably wasn't that much of an issue for your car in the first place.

 

First of all, congratulations for the champ. Well deserved, no chance for us.

In fact, yes, we had a problem, we were pushing oil above 120º during important part of the race, with the consequent risk of burning the engine. Risk that, by the way, you didn´t take, changing drivers at each stop (the only race in which you did so), exploiting a bug that resets the engine temperature when driver swap.

Your mate already said it: