P1LMS 2023 P1LMS 8h of Bahrain - Talk

Discussion in 'Race Information' started by Markus Broch, Sep 12, 2023.

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  1. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

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    Discuss any race-specific topics here (or open your own thread).
  2. Patrick Schindler

    Patrick Schindler New Member P1 gaming e.V.


    It looks like we have about 36°C air temperature on Saturdays race.

    After a long run we have 100°C water and 122°C oil temperature with complete open radiator and open water cooling (Ferrari GTE). From experience the temperatures will increase, if we would drive a double stint (what most of the teams are doing). In that case there's a potential danger for some cars getting an engine failure over the 8 hours. Can we limit the air temperature for this particular race? Rain is a non-factor here so influence is marignal.
  3. Leonard Krippner

    Leonard Krippner New Member

    Depending on the weather service I checked, up to 38°C are predicted for Saturday. The car even hit 101°C water temperature for me after a long run.

    Like Patrick, I can only speak for the Ferrari GTE, but I think these conditions could become dangerous for many cars over the course of the race.
  4. Juan Cofino

    Juan Cofino Member P1 gaming e.V.

    temperature in real time, same problem for everyone
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  5. Julian Köhler

    Julian Köhler Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Moin, ich kann nicht joinen - irgendein Problem mit dem workshop
  6. Moriz Mehl

    Moriz Mehl Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Leider kann unser GTE #117 heute nicht starten. Ich wünsche allen ein gutes Rennen!
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  7. Mark Sauerbier

    Mark Sauerbier New Member

    Krankheitsbedingt kann Gran Tuccini Racing #189 heute leider nicht am Rennen teilnehmen. Viel Erfolg und Spaß euch allen!
  8. Fabian Walter

    Fabian Walter New Member

    Hallo, hat jemand eine Ahnung oder Idee? Wir fuhren mit 76 % Pedalkraft, beim ersten Stopp stellte RF2 automatisch auf 100 % um. Aber wir hatten beide das gleiche Setup geladen
  9. Sebastian Wunsch

    Sebastian Wunsch Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Dann hat muss dein Teamkollege das falsche Setup geladen haben. Pedalkraft kann jeder individuell einstellen. Vor dem Fahrerwechsel muss allerdings das korrekte Setup assigned werden, dass diese Settings übernommen werden. Das rF2 hier selbst andere Einstellungen vornimmt, hatte ich bisher noch keine Erfahrungen gemacht.
  10. David Trueba

    David Trueba Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Hi guys, about post-race decisions and the issue of reset the engine temps, several questions come to mind:
    - If this bug was notified to the organization prior to the race, why was it not communicated by admins to all the teams so that we could race under the same conditions?
    - If tomorrow we find a new bug, do I understand that from today onwards it´s right to continually exploit it in the race?
    - Taking into account the temperature problems we had in Bahrain, does any driver or engineer of other teams think that leaving the pits at 80º would be in the same conditions as leaving the pit with the engine at 120º? Do they handle it the same? Is it the same competitively?

    And honestly, IMHO win the race... surely they would have won it by far anyway. Now in sportsmanship, it doesn't seem like a win to me. I think we all lost.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2023
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  11. Christian Malghera

    Christian Malghera New Member

    They were just smarter, this is NOT cheating.
  12. David Trueba

    David Trueba Member P1 gaming e.V.

    At no point I ask if they are cheating or if they are smarter, there is no doubt about that.
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2023
  13. Leonard Krippner

    Leonard Krippner New Member

    btw: I checked the replay out of curiosity: For some reason you guys were reving up to almost 7000 rpm in the first stint (when engine temps were still equal after the start), about 500-700 rpm higher than we did, depending on the part of the track. So I guess temperature probably wasn't that much of an issue for your car in the first place.
  14. David Trueba

    David Trueba Member P1 gaming e.V.

    First of all, congratulations for the champ. Well deserved, no chance for us.

    In fact, yes, we had a problem, we were pushing oil above 120º during important part of the race, with the consequent risk of burning the engine. Risk that, by the way, you didn´t take, changing drivers at each stop (the only race in which you did so), exploiting a bug that resets the engine temperature when driver swap.

    Your mate already said it:

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