Race Threads 2018

Discussion in 'Race Information' started by Simon Christmann, Dec 9, 2017.

6h Road Atlanta - 20.01.2018
Posted By Simon Christmann

Braselton, Georgia,
Braselton, GA, USA
Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 01:00 PM
(ends Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 08:00 PM)
Timezone: Europe/Amsterdam

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  1. Simon Christmann

    Simon Christmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    Arnold ich werde schauen ob ich die Sleeping Policeman zu entschärfen.
     
  2. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    Saubere Linie fahren, devensiv ran gehen. Mal 5e grade lassen.
     
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  3. Simon Christmann

    Simon Christmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    Results and Replay are in the first post.
     
  4. Adam Karkuszewski

    Adam Karkuszewski Active Member

    a lot of drivers should sit and rethink their drive-behaviour and beeing in GT3 class. Its not a "muss" that You have to drive faster car if You are unable to hold it under control (not speaking about driving it FAST)

    and mirrors ... my god ... mirrors.

    and RESPECT yellow flags !
     
  5. Joern Dette

    Joern Dette Active Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Ich finde es eine Top Strecke, gut die Anti-Cuts sind gemein, ja... Aber beim besten willen, wer mal nur 80% fährt und bisl mit Übersicht heran geht, der schaft auf mit 50 Autos diese Strecke. Die BTCC sind von haus aus anfällig auf Kurvenfahrten ins besondere mit Curbs, bin ja selbst schon die Rennkomoden gefahren.

    Also Kopf Einschalten, das Ego runterschrauben und Übersicht behalten. Dann klappt es auch in Atlanta.
     
  6. Rene von Dobschuetz

    Rene von Dobschuetz Well-Known Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Ach was, es geht doch nur um den Sieg hier und das um jeden Preis ;).
     
  7. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    Die anticut balken versuchen wir zu endschärfen. Aber es muss auch mit Köpfchen gefahren werden.
     
  8. Adam Karkuszewski

    Adam Karkuszewski Active Member

    Amen
     
  9. Mal kurz ein Statement zum Testrennen :)

    Von 10 gestartet, Start war super und alle drumrum sehr diszipliniert.... bis am Ende der ersten Runde ein BMW von links die Stecke kreuzte...
    Naja in der nächsten Runde in die Box und von 36 glaube ich wieder ins Rennen.
    Im nachhinein bin ich nicht traurig von hinten durch das Feld fahren zu müssen da ich doch einige Erfahrungen sammeln konnte!

    Als erstes natürlich, wie Joern schon geschrieben hat, Kopf einschalten und einmal öfters Bremsen oder gelassen in Situationen gehen.
    Nachgezählt habe ich nicht aber ich denke mal so um die 15 Plätze habe ich nur durch Unfälle oder Fahrfehler anderer gut gemacht.

    GT 3 überholt GT 3 geht eigentlich nur mit der Brechstange wenn der vor einem fahrende nicht mitspielt.
    Auch wenn es anstrengend ist ;) und Geduld gefragt ist hat es in den meisten Situationen aber schon gereicht dicht dahinter zu bleiben und Druck auszuüben um den vor einem fahrenden in einen Fehler zu treiben.
    Bei Fahrern die mich unter Druck gesetzt haben habe ich dann doch - wenn ich nicht gerade einen Fehler gemacht habe - versucht ihnen rechtzeitig Platz zu machen da ein harter Zweikampf auf dieser Strecke nicht gut für meine Reifen und Nerven ist :D

    GT 3 und BTCC
    Hier kann ich nur allen GT 3 Fahrern raten nicht erst am Bremspunkt an den BTCC vorbei zu wollen!
    Die Jungs bremsen "mindestens" genau so spät und sind in den Kurven zum teil schneller als die GT`s und wer dann eins auf sein Heck bekommt braucht sich nicht beschweren!!!!
    Hier sind wirklich starke Nerven und Geduld gefragt...

    Am Ende war ich jedenfalls in den Top 10 und hatte viel Spaß :):):)

    Wenn sich in den ersten zwei bis drei Runden alle etwas zurückhalten kann es sicher ein tolles Rennen mit einer menge Aktion werden....

    Sorry das ich es nicht auf English geschrieben habe aber dafür ist mein ausländisch nicht gut genug
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2018
  10. Alex Schmurtz

    Alex Schmurtz New Member

    Despite my name I don't speak a single word of German but I put your post in Google translate, and it is pretty understandable. I'm glad I did it: very interesting, thanks for sharing! :)
     
  11. Jan Studenski

    Jan Studenski Active Member

    Wow, why is it allowed to be signed up for 2 teams
    I mean look at that:
    Teamname: vMADS1 #01 | Ford Focus
    Team Manager: Daniel Isbarn Driver #1: Arnold Hausmann
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    Driver #2:
    David Tepper
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    Driver #3:
    Marcel Pawlowski
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    Driver #4:
    Steffen Koch
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    Driver #5:
    Daniel Isbarn
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    Teamname: vMADS2 #02 | BMW 125i
    Team Manager:Daniel Isbarn Driver #1:Arnold Hausmann
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    Driver #2:David Tepper
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    Driver #3:Marcel Pawlowski
    [​IMG]

    Driver #4:Steffen Koch
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    Driver #5:Daniel Isbarn
    [​IMG]
    Teamname: Breslin GT #98 | Ferrari 458
    Team Manager: Thomas Lenz Driver #1: Thomas Lenz
    [​IMG]

    Driver #2:
    Connor Accettella
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    Driver #3:
    Mike Almeida
    [​IMG]

    Driver #4:
    Michael Wilson
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    Teamname: Breslin GT #99 | Ferrari 458
    Team Manager: Thomas Lenz Driver #1: Thomas Lenz
    [​IMG]

    Driver #2:
    Connor Accettella
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    Driver #3:
    Mike Almeida
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    Driver #4:
    Michael Wilson
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    etc.

    This is just unfair to everyone else who has to go onto the reserve list now

    @Simon Christmann Please think about forbidding that, so that you can only sign up for 1 team, except your team got exception permission by admin (ie. wenn das Team halt nur 2 Fahrer sind, damit ein 3ter noch aushelfen könnte).
    Maybe also add a minimum driver requirement, so people are not just simply splitting teams to get more entries.
     
  12. Simon Christmann

    Simon Christmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    They wrote already in the team manager conversation that they just dont know yet who is on which car. But as far as i have understood each of the cars will drive with only 2 drivers.

    So no need to worry there.
     
  13. Ricardo Edelmann

    Ricardo Edelmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V. P1 Steward

    Admin Post

    I don't know if you noticed but there are 4/5 drivers in those teams for a 6hr race. Why shouldn't they have 2 cars for the race if everyone of them wants to race? They have more than enough people for 2 cars.
    If there were teams that would field 2 cars with 2 or 3 drivers i'd agree but not with 4 or 5 drivers. They still have time do decide which driver goes in which car. This is possible until the last day before the race.

    As an example: TRG Cars should be able to drive about 1 1/2 hrs per stint. 6 / 1 1/2 = 4. So what would the 5th driver do? In that case it would be much easier to go with 2 cars with 2-3 people on it, which they want to do. There is absolutely nothing unfair in it.
    If other people are late to sign up it's basically their problem. They could have signed up earlier.
     
  14. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

  15. Helge Foerstner

    Helge Foerstner New Member

    Now who again was on a team that had _1_ driver drive a whole car all alone, even for 24 hours?
    What a waste of team space ;) Ah yes that team that advertised 3 person...alities :))
    Hopp Schwiiz
     
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  16. Rene von Dobschuetz

    Rene von Dobschuetz Well-Known Member P1 gaming e.V.

    I didn´t agree too! We as Rennsimulanten has always spend the biggest team with the most drivers and maybe because of that, some events became enough cars in the grid to run the event at all. Now we had made our teams and it´s comprehensibly, that most want to drive with two drivers instead of three or four to get driving time. Yes, it maybe become an problem, if events in future becomes always full grids of 50 cars, but we could otherwise names our teams with other names then Rennsimulanten and sign up all drivers yet. It would change nothing.
    To be honest, -i were disappointed too, if i were to late with sign up and we has by the way drivers, which has thought about subscribe but were too late. But as far as rF2 can handle only about 50 cars safe, it´s like it is.
    What do we want? Starting fee? And give it at the end at winning bonus? I think we should not go too professional! Maybe we had to think about something before next event, or simple: who came´s first...
     
  17. Ricardo Edelmann

    Ricardo Edelmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V. P1 Steward

    Admin Post
    The maximum number of Teams on a server is 52. So we can't get higher than that.

    Personally i'm against a "starting fee approach". At least for the time these races are just fun events. If it would be a complete league it would be "okayish".

    For me the approach for now is easy. First come, first served. If you can't get a spot because you did not know about it before, wait for the next event and be prepared to sign up in time. Despite that. If you look at the reserve list, you will see that at least 4 out of those 6 teams knew about this race since the date is set. They just did not sign up. Maybe it's because they didn't know who exactly is driving (line up change is possible until one day before the race. So that's no excuse.) Or as many people nowadays do: "There are not many cars yet on the entrylist so i will wait until there are more cars". (This has occured several times in the last few years. Teams did not sign up until very late eventhough they knew about the event)

    And as much as i would like to open up a second server etc. It's just not manageable for us as P1-Gaming Staff. We just don't have enough resources to do everything as it would require us to have at least 2 streams which we don't have the resources for, 2x the stewards and at least 2 organizers more. Furthermore. How would we decide which team goes onto which server? We don't want to discourage anyone. But if you just split it up it might get very boring in this races because for example we have 2 extremely fast teams. One team get's onto server 1 and the other one gets on server 2 so they will win with a gap of many laps to the others and have no challenge. On the other side if you go for a performance split you discourage people because there will be a "better" and a "worse" server which can discourage the lower midfield teams from participating because they are not longer in the "main" race. That's something we don't want in these FUN races.

    The only thing i would do as i previously said is stopping teams from entering too many cars if they don't have enough drivers (Example: 1 team, 2 cars but only 2 drivers. or 3 drivers and 2-3 cars.) as well as stopping new teams we don't know from entering 3 or more cars.

    Cheers
    Rico
     
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  18. Rene von Dobschuetz

    Rene von Dobschuetz Well-Known Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Totally with you! 2nd server isn´t the solution. There is no 2nd race Nords24h or LeMans or Bathurst. If i remember right, it´s nearly impossible for new teams to get into 24h LeMans. I belief, that the Orga invites the teams and no one said no, so you would not came for all money of the world ;).
    Maybe the 2014er SRD solution could become one for us, making mandatory stints for every driver without big issues that´s it make necessary to go to pit for repair or press esc during stints. If we want some more quality driving and sort out some crashers, this could cut reserve list... And who has driven mandatory stints will drive in event, now we don´t know if everybody will drive, only because he has signed up.
     
  19. Michael Roellin

    Michael Roellin Active Member

    Sorry about that one ._.
     
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  20. Rene von Dobschuetz

    Rene von Dobschuetz Well-Known Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Helge has north-german humor, it´s most sarcastic and not a bit meant evil ;).
    With 30 teams there had no one an problem with anything, but now someone is afraid not to be part of it. I can comprehend, but that´s life. If you got no ticket for football championship, concert or something like that you can´t get in too.
     
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