Race Threads 2018

Discussion in 'Race Information' started by Simon Christmann, Dec 9, 2017.

6h Road Atlanta - 20.01.2018
Posted By Simon Christmann

Braselton, Georgia,
Braselton, GA, USA
Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 01:00 PM
(ends Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 08:00 PM)
Timezone: Europe/Amsterdam

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  1. Thomas Lenz

    Thomas Lenz Member

    If it's true that the poor connection from Lopez caused the Turn 1 carnage then it's an absolute joke. IIRC his lag caused a similar incident in the test race in the first lap and he reported that he has performance issues. But this time it effectively ended the race of both our cars with huge damage and therefore losing multiple laps. It's hard to accept that people act so negligently (not actively, but if you decide to race with those issues you have to accept the outcome) and end your 6h race after 500m.
     
  2. Adam Karkuszewski

    Adam Karkuszewski Active Member

    To be honest, this video was a my mistake and quick recovery. This yellow ferrari crashed. I fought that this caused yellow flag. So when i passed him i fought its clean now... Oh how wrong i was.

    That shows you, you have to be every time, EVERY time 100% focused.

    About speed - yes, you dont have to be fastest. Strategy, clear mind, allways be aware of Your suroundings and who you race with. No mistakes - crucial, save your car and remember to be in top group for final 1 or 2 hours. Cause endurance race is won at the end... Not on start. The longer race, thr more patient You have to be.
     
  3. Adam Karkuszewski

    Adam Karkuszewski Active Member

    It does not look like a lag ... it looks like "over-cooky" entry to T1 and spin by yourself.

    As I see, You where respoisnbile to TAKE OUT our #235 car ...BRAVO!
    If You had such problems with NET , then You should let other guy to start the race (!!!!)
    Second, if other cant do it, You should START from the pit lane or at the very back of the grid (!!!) its a 6hour race, not a 20 min sprint.

    With this approche, with Your lag, performance of pc or a self-mistake (whatever you want to call it) You destroyed the FUN for a lot of guys. Because of Your approche and behaviour. Let that sunk into You.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2018
  4. Thomas Lenz

    Thomas Lenz Member

    I hope you're referring with 'you' to Lopez and not to me since you replied to my post.

    Furthermore the awareness of the drivers under yellow flags and incidents was really not good. In this situation I had to avoid the two spinning cars and therefore braked (only by 50%) and still got rear-ended by the driver behind me which sent me into one of the cars which spun and caused major damage.
     
  5. Adam Karkuszewski

    Adam Karkuszewski Active Member

    yes to Lopez :)


    ______________

    YOu want to be good in endurance racing ?

    WAtch this ... again and again ... and again ... and again

     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2018
  6. 100 mb upload / download optical fiber is not a bad connection. Maybe the guy who has a bad connection is the one who crashed me. Also it was not spin, he sent my race to the shit in the first corner.

    Also stop saying I am dangerous and bad driver because is not true. I wasnt the guys who were crashing every lap and also I wasnt the guys who crashed my team mates and got penalty for it. We couldn't report it because we all were driving and the person who had to do it was AFK but there was a Touring who crashed car 18 on purpose after rejoining the track that was an incident which deserves a DSQ. I will report it when I have the replay.

    It looks like leaving comments here is just to receive some embarrasing discussions with some people. Ok, thank you all, now I have my own conclussions about this. See you in the next event or... maybe not, if we race of course, because there are some things that happened in the last 2 races that are not liked by us like having bop penalties 4 days before the event or some penalties for the same team because some people want us to loose our time. I wont answer nor read any more messages. Just I hope you enjoyed the event.

    See ya.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2018
  7. Jochen Bendermacher

    Jochen Bendermacher Moderator P1 gaming e.V.

    I really dont understand some of the Viewpoints here. I wont call any names, but, some people here are argueing like:" i made some mistakes, thats forgivable, but, everyone else have to be Perfect." The organizers, the stewards and all other drivers, just not me.

    And instead of discussing things, some let their frustration take control and the Tone gets "attacking". As soon as you attack people directly, open discussion ends and will lead nowhere.

    No one is perfect, including me and you.
     
  8. Doug Atkinson

    Doug Atkinson Member P1 gaming e.V.

    A reminder that when race control reviews an incident, they may see an additional infraction that was not mentioned to originally cause the review, and possibly a penalty.
     
  9. Simon Christmann

    Simon Christmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

  10. Jan Studenski

    Jan Studenski Active Member

    Yeah, just shift the blame on everyone else.

    Your logic is so flawed. Several people are pointing the finger towards you in terms of dangerous driving and bad connection.
    Fibre doesn't mean good connection!
    You are a dangerous driver, turning into people and rejoining dangerously, or should I make a video about you? With all your crashes ...

    Seriously consider changing your attitude & driving style and investigate your connection problem, please.
    Generally I could say "please never come again" but I prefer that you improve and can enjoy driving here without any problems with others :)
     
  11. Look... Don't make me make a video about all the shit the other drivers did to my team because It would show a lot of shit that isn't good for this league. So please, don't heat me more than what I am.
     
  12. Michael Roellin

    Michael Roellin Active Member

    Well prove us you really are treated unfairly by other drivers, make a video with the incidents and report them.
     
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  13. I am already reporting them but this is related to the administrators, not to you.
     
  14. Joern Dette

    Joern Dette Active Member P1 gaming e.V.

    I am glad that you had to stand already for the incidents of yourself that you have done against us

    That's how we save up the view of the race
     
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  15. Michael Roellin

    Michael Roellin Active Member

    How is it not related to me? You always complain about everyone treating you wrongly and without respect on track. This is your chance to redeem yourself and defend yourself against the accusations with evidence. You make no mistakes only going for you "100%-Situations" so you technically shouldn't be responsible for any crashes involving you, right? How is this only concering Admins when nearly everyone was affected by it at some point?

    This whole thing indeed led to some embarrasing discussions but I think you see yourself on the wrong side in this whole thing.
     
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  16. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Admin Post
    It´s great to see all so many drivers taking part in discussions after the race. Those discussions are really important, nevertheless everyone has to stay calm. Not only during the last few days but also after the race some people try to handle their frustration after a disappointing result by complaining about mistakes of other drivers. That´s not gentleman-like. To argue, that the administration of P1 doesn´t like one specific team or driver, is really strange and results in huge confusion. If we have the opinion that someone is not allowed to race at our events we would communicate this topic in an acceptable way. We are investing so much (not only money) into our hobby, so we appeal to all wo are involved to respect everyone. So let us reflect on the race in a constructive way to improve the organization for the next event and have fun together.
     
  17. Adam Karkuszewski

    Adam Karkuszewski Active Member

    @Alejandro Lopez

    I watched the first 25 laps of yours ... seriously man ... SERIOUSLY ?!?

    Maybe at T1 the Hungarian Ferrari bumped You (but it does not look like). In other situations, other Ferraris are even closer to rivals and there is no sign of contact.
    Anyway, Your behaviour right after the first contact and "half" spin; Your return in front of the pack and crash with yellow Ferrari that caused chaos on Turn3 (that driving solo is a hard corner). No words. Instead of You and Marek beeing affected by the crash (from Your fault or not - that is INVALID). Your actions after that , increased damaged cars on 1 lap from two (You and Marek) to like ... 12.
    After such crash at T1 You should waited until everyone safely passed You or try to rejoin the track by beeing very slowly on the far right sited of track to "find" Your place in the snake of cars and return to race ... but not like that.
     
  18. Michael Roellin

    Michael Roellin Active Member

    I'm sorry if I have spoken in a unrespectful manner and will try to be more constructive with my comments in the future.
     
  19. Stephan Kern

    Stephan Kern New Member

    I want to point to a technical issue, which seems to occur since a rf2 built that came out before the 24H in november.
    It is the second time, that my team is affected.
    The cirucmstances, where it happens are a little bit different, but it seems as there is a problem with the driver
    session management in rf2.

    We were heading for or second driver change at the end of the 2nd our. René joined as a spectator.
    He was riding with me in my car and he was selected in the Pit Stop Menu as a driver.
    I boxed, and we both got the according messages "You loose control in blabla second" and "You gain control in blabla seconds.
    Than the first strange thing happened. I took the foot from the break and the car started moving slowly during the running
    Pit Stop. And René, who was still waiting to gain control, could already break, even if I still had control.
    Than after the stop, René did not get the control, despite what he message said. I had to drive on.
    As we were not in a good racing position any more, we decided to cut the internet connection, so I could rejoin and
    we would try again. René was on the server as spectator. I rejoined as player, but the server showed me as spectator
    and neither of us could get into the car. Finally we gave up.
    We went to the testserver and did four or five driver changes without any issue.
    I opened a beer against the frustration and went on a walk in the last sun with my doggies :)
    When I came back, one of our teammates informed me, that our cars was still shown as "in Pit" although no driver
    was on the server, not even as a spectator. I rejoined as player....... and could get into the car and drive without
    any problems. René joined in and we could make a perfect driver change........ WTF.
    At this point we already hat 16 Laps on the last TCR, as our car was in box for nearly 45 minutes.
    We decided to finish the race and set our goal to at least finish as the last GT3 and overtake the TCR´s :)

    But the behaviour is very strange. We did everything correct and cannot explain why this happend.
    At the Nordschleife we had a quite similar problem. I do not think it is connectet to our internet
    connection, because we absolutely hat no issues with that.

    I would be interested if other teams had similar problems with the driver change and / or rejoining.
     
  20. Thomas Lenz

    Thomas Lenz Member

    We also had issues with the driver swap. At the first swap I gave the car to my mate but still had control over my car after the stop. Turned out afterwards I was sitting in an invisible car after the stop but my mate could drive without any issue. It was really confusing but finally I parked the car and hit "Exit to monitor".

    I heard that the driver swap issue might be correlated to the usage of Trackmap.

    When I wanted to take the car back I got 'Connection lost' three times in a row while loading all the cars. Steam restart didn't solved the problem. I changed the network settings to 'LAN' which eventually made it possible to join the server (might be coincidental) even if it was already to late for the driver swap.
     
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