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P1LMS - 6h of Estoril
Posted By Markus Broch

Estoril
Saturday, February 26, 2022 - 12:00 PM
(ends Saturday, February 26, 2022 - 06:00 PM)
Timezone: Europe/Amsterdam

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  1. My 2cents:
    -yes, traffic has been an overall issue but imho as Alex said it's not that much track-related, but more "mood-related".
    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1408983123?t=1h19m14s an example from yesterday: this style of maneuvers can cause drama in every circuit if ends in the wrong way.
    -i think some gte/lmp2 did loose or almost lost car control even when on racing line because drivers used to loose focus checking too much the mirrors: remember, the faster class has control on the move, not you. Be predictable, choose a line and stay there, prepare your corner exit to gain extra time. Be smart!
    -i had to abort my 4th stint because of aero damages, in straights lmp2s were catching me, ok i got hit in the back 2 times and got blue diffuser but the big issues were coming from a car that DNF'd and was out of the garage (and invisible, dont ask me why, never happened, probably garage detail mult?). There are SO MUCH cars, and its extremely NICE to see: to the staff, please, if a car choose to DNF just remove it from the game.
    -in the end we must be honest: its an amazing grid, so mixed, someone just want to enjoy the race, some other are extremely competitive and quick, the server was ultra smooth, we must be more a bit more responsible and overall take more care about the grid.

    About the episode between our lmp2 car and the #46 seawolf: as Rik said, there was nothing, nothing, nothing intentional. And the incoming race will completely demonstrate it. Our P1 #7 will be a threat to be beat by herself.

    maybe not 2cents but even 3/4 euros but its fine :D onto the next one!
     
  2. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

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    @all

    So then I will also say something about yesterday's race. That Estoril will not be easy was clear. But the bottom line is that it was a great race. Also the post's up to here I find very good, all pull on the same rope and both the gte and lmp drivers realize that what did not go so well. This is a point that teams need to work on. I personally don't like long rulebooks where everything has to be written down to the smallest point, for me ours is already too long (but also necessary as you can see) We have teams that have been racing here for over 6 years and have made P1 what we are. But please keep in mind that you have also started. Can look for you gladly times a few old streams out :) (we also still have the replays) bottom line is that sometimes tracks have to come in that challenge you drivers (we dare you to do that) otherwise we wouldn't do it, you are great teams and have a strong way behind you.

    Now I have to bring but also times a different tone to the day. In the past, teams have had brand new drivers start to test for another series. (yes we have heard that too) new drivers can drive all year on the training server, they don't have to start in such a high field or start when they have mastered the car. Drivers who can't control the car in the race in the future will be taken out of the race. The bottom line is that we will tighten the reins a bit and start by taking the best list out of the live timing. This brings us to the point that has already been rightly addressed here and where I am fully behind. Use the servers to drive with many cars and get to know the traffic. For this we always provide the things. Then you can see how others drive and how fast they are. Furthermore, we are already working out something that should bring in the future a little more respect and Diszeplin pure.

    On the subject of pit lane. We are working on all tracks for solutions that are within the scope of our possibilities. We can not always just as we want to original tracks (German laws suck) and modded tracks are only used conditionally (here we protect the club) but dear Marc because you are always the loudest, the Monza places we need until 20.03. and remember that you stay within the legal framework. Thank you for your outstanding help to make it better here ;-)

    Guys even if it didn't go so well for everyone, you all had a great start to the season yesterday and we are keeping our fingers crossed for Monza.
     
  3. Regarding the Low downforce kit.. Could we maybe please enable it..?
    For starters, the top speed difference between the prototypes is a bid small, also, the set up´s which are required to archive decent laptimes will result in car´s which are highly unstable and may lead to trouble between classes.
    I do believe, that it would be way easier for traffic navigation aswell as "stable set up" - wise, to enable the low downforce kit.
     
  4. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

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    We will only release the Le Mans kit at Le Mans. Build your set so that you can drive safely, you are fast super, you are not so fast, hey then you are but safe
     
  5. Jose Ignacio

    Jose Ignacio New Member

    Ok guys, I have received a ban for the next race. May i say some words?

    I filed 2 claims against 2 drivers who caused 2 accidents that caused serious damage to our car in wich we lost almost 8 laps of repairing in the first 30 minutes of the race.

    In my first claim against car #29, an S&G+60seconds was imposed on me now for not respecting a yellow flag.

    On Lap 22 Car #29 while coming out of the last corner touched another car in its class and the two came to a stop in the wrong position.

    In the images it can be seen that the other car driver makes the decision to leave the track and stays off it, waiting for the moment to rejoin to it safely, but the blue car against which I filed the claim resumed its march, drove on the gravel and stopped his car ON the track, pointing towards the cars that came from the opposite direction coming out of the last corner, placing the front half of the car ON the track... (he had a lot of time to decide to put back gear and go back to leave the track, but he decided to stay there) ...
    when I came from the outside of the last corner, coming out of it and I find myself with the track intentionally obstructed by the other driver...
    What is the result of the protest? I am responsible for the accident, according to the stewards, for not respecting a yellow flag caused voluntarily by the other driver.
    So, S&G+60s to me.

    So, the driver who decided to place his car ON the track and hinder the pass of the cars that were coming through the racing line, did not receive any penalty.

    The second claim I filed was also rejected, despite the fact that the incident seriously damaged no less than 6 cars, after the driver I claimed lost control of his car on Lap 11, without any fight with any other driver, and caused a multiple accident ... So losing control of your car and causing a multiple accident, sending several cars into the pits for several laps, is not penalized.

    However, during the race, just on the pitlap to swap drivers I lost control of the car going into the next corner where car #76 caused the massive crash before, and unfortunately i also caused a multiple crash. As a result, my mate who got into the car got +60sS&G a few laps later.

    So losing control of the car and causing a multiple collsion has a heavy penalty during the race (live stewards), but losing control of the car and causing a multiple collision reviewed by the stewards after the race has no penalty.

    Where is the consistency?

    (I lost control of the car, because when adjusting things for the pitstop + driver swap I touched the buttons on the keyboard to jump into view of the other cars, so I had no view of my car for several seconds, until I was able to return to my cockpit view). Im so sorry for that, guys.

    Well, at the end of the day the driver of the bad behavior on the track and banned for a race is me, without having received any post-race protest.

    A bit curious.
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2022
  6. Alex Sturm

    Alex Sturm New Member

    I called out the upcoming cars on my Teammate, so we did our Job as a Car by stopping again in a Way that would've been safe IF People wouldn't ignore the Yellow Flags. And it actually wasn't more than 1/3 from the Car Ontrack since the Tracklimits are the White lines.
    Your greediness to pass that GTE, ignoring/not paying attention to Yellow Flags has caused your own misery in that Situation.
     
  7. Jose Ignacio

    Jose Ignacio New Member

    After hitting the light blue car that is in the background, on the gravel, your driver resumed his run and calmly rolled over it, with the car fully controlled, to then stop it on the track and place it in the position shown in the screenshot.

    I ask you: Why didn't you file a protest against me?

    You did not because you feel embarrassed.

    A third of a car? Really?

    Only the RR tyre of your car is on the grass, dude.

    BTW: What color is the flag waved by the rF2 steward there before the collision?

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    Last edited: Mar 11, 2022
  8. Markus Broch

    Markus Broch Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

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    A well meaning advice from me, stop arguing, look at your replay and be critical of yourself. Marc did exactly the right thing on the last bend and stopped so that the oncoming traffic could act correctly. The marshal waved green after the accident so stop twisting the facts. Should you now continue to denounce the Reko I advise you to explore here how we react to such things. Now wipe your mouth, sit out the penalty, bite the wheel and show us in the next race that you can do better.
     
  9. Jose Ignacio

    Jose Ignacio New Member

    Hello. I appreciate you writing a few lines.
    I only want to ask you please to explain one thing to me, because I was seriously punished for having caused the accident with car #29, since I would have collided with him during a yellow flag.

    Could you tell me, please, at what exact moment before my collision with the #29 was that yellow flag active in the sim?

    I couldn't find it, and that's why I'm asking you.

    I have the right to that information, please.

    Thanks.
     
  10. Pit limiter going to be 60kph or 80kph? ty in advance
     
  11. Simon Christmann

    Simon Christmann Administrator Staff Member P1 gaming e.V.

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    In your screenshot, you can see to ingame marshall waving the green flag behind the incident. These marshalls only wave the green flag when in the section before is a yellow flag. In the relay you can only check the marshall post as the game does not show the yellow flag as you can see them as a driver.
     
  12. Marco Saupe

    Marco Saupe New Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Can you please tell me which lap this incident happened?
     
  13. Can we this time round be a little bit more cautios with the timing of the different start´s of the classes? Because in portugal we got a bid of
    unnecessary carnage dou the gte´s only getting underway, when the lead of car´s where already entering s3, thus leading in the lapping starting allready in the second lap of the race.
     
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  14. Michael Roellin

    Michael Roellin Active Member

    Sadly car #69 will not be able to participate in today's race. Good luck to everyone competing!
     
  15. Any chance to have a car jump in from the reserve list to fill up the field..?
    We have a second car(lmp1 same class as the car missing) ready for racing
     
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  16. Bence Szabo

    Bence Szabo Member P1 gaming e.V.

    What kind of formation lap that was? I mean going with 40-50kph? No surprise, that somebody crashed to us. Its not so cool, that we practice hours to the race and get hit already on the formation lap and losing 1 minute, even before that the race is started. Maybe you should consider to make an average speed rule on the formation lap, or something.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2022
  17. David Vanmullem

    David Vanmullem New Member

    I am very sorry Bence for the contact during Formation lap. It's ruined both our race. As you said, I dont understand what happened during this lap. All car was a high speed (more than 150 Km/h for sure). And suddenly, i saw all car slow, my brakes was too cold, I could not avoid the contact. I tried but I could not. Sorry. I expect the next race will have a "normal" formation lap. The cars were too fast during this lap.
     
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  18. I think the staff should take in account to force - or to let free to use it - the low drag package for the next highspeed races (Daytona, Spa) for safety reasons: with the standard package having 50 cars on track with a heavy front aerobalance% rises the risk of crashes due to instability.
    Ok we all agree this will not change a thing in the majority of the episodes but I think it can at least be helpful in therms of ease of driving-car control.
     
  19. Bence Szabo

    Bence Szabo Member P1 gaming e.V.

    Thanks for your reply, nice from you.
     
  20. Nico Maimo

    Nico Maimo Member

    Hi all,
    here is a short summary of the race of the 146:

    qualified penultimate we could only consider a comeback. The race was tense at times because the traffic was incessant, on the whole the prototypes were patient but some overtook in unlikely places.

    Despite everything, we managed to climb back up and cross the finish line in 22nd position.
    We would like to apologize to the crew of the black Aston Martin who finished 5th I believe, indeed, during one of our refuelings we made you lose time because we were on the box and no luck because in addition we were making repairs, receive our sincere apologies, from now on we will make sure that this does not happen again by being careful to occupy only half of the box during refueling for future races.

    Congratulations to the winners of each category, and congratulations to all for the spectacle on the track, it is an honor for us to share the race with such good drivers.

    Thank you to the organizers for the work accomplished, this championship is very pleasant and above all serious, everything we were looking for when registering for it.

    See you next month at Silverstone, until then take care, ciao
     
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